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 <description>&lt;div class=&quot;simplevote_widget&quot;&gt;Rating&lt;span class=&quot;vote-off&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;vote-off&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;vote-off&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;vote-off&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;vote-off&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/03IMG_0267boots.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Dynafits&quot; width=&quot;113&quot; height=&quot;134&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;Avid Whistler bakcountry skier Lee Lau put some of Dynafit&amp;#39;s alpine touring boots to the test - the Zzero4 C-MF and Zzero3 C-TF. Here&amp;#39;s the full lowdown:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;May 16. 2007&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;       &lt;strong&gt;Words by Lee Lau. Pictures by Lee Lau and Sharon Bader&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Other useful links:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outdoorindustry.org/media.outdoor.php?news_id=2612&amp;amp;sort_year=2007&quot;&gt;Dynafit      press - release about the Zzero boot lineup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=582&quot;&gt;Lou      Dawson&amp;#39;s observations on the 2007-8 Dynafit lineup&lt;/a&gt; (including comparatives      and observations on boot-fit)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Thread on Tetongravity.com forums      - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78437&quot;&gt;AT Boot      Flex Comparative List by Model&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/DynafitBoots.pdf&quot;&gt;Abstract      of the Dynafit catalogue&lt;/a&gt; containing details of the Zzero line&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Introduction:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the small world of North American    ski-touring and ski-mountaineering, Dynafit is known moreso for its bindings    then for its boots. With the introduction of a new line of boots for the 2007    - 8 season, this state of events may change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The line of boots is named Zzero.    That rather awkward name is perhaps the least confusing part of Dynafit&amp;#39;s nomenclature.    Are you ready for this lengthy turgid explanation? Perhaps take a deep breath    and sit down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#39;s use the Dynafit Zzero4 C -    MF as an example. As I said, Zzero is the name of the entire line of boots.    There are &lt;strong&gt;4&lt;/strong&gt; buckles on this boot. There is also&lt;strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;C&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;arbon.    It has a &lt;strong&gt;MF&lt;/strong&gt; or Multi-form liner (as opposed to the lighter    thermo-form liner designated by the TF symbol).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To add to the confusion, the Zzero    is a big full-featured line of boots. I reviewed the Zzero 4 buckle &lt;strong&gt;carbon&lt;/strong&gt;    version but there are also Zzero 4 buckle&lt;strong&gt; Pebax plastic&lt;/strong&gt; and    Zzero 4 buckle &lt;strong&gt;PU plastic&lt;/strong&gt; versions; both of which have different    stiffnesses, weights and pricepoints but sharing similar construction details.    Dynafit also has two versions of the Zzero 3 buckle boot; the carbon version    that I am reviewing and a Pebax version. Finally there is a Zzero 2 buckle carbon    version as well as the old standby&amp;#39;s, the TLT boot line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately Dynafit does not yet    have an online catalogue on &lt;a href=&quot;/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jamie/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/2007/rogerspass/day1/&quot;&gt;its website&lt;/a&gt;    on this date. Please see the links cited above for further information and technical    details about the boots and also hosted here on my personal website is an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/DynafitBoots.pdf&quot;&gt;abstract    of the Dynafit catalogue&lt;/a&gt; containing information about the boots.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/01IMG_0264bootscomparison.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Garmont &amp;amp; Dynafit boots&quot; width=&quot;504&quot; height=&quot;339&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;From left      to right: Garmont Mega Ride, Dynafit Zzero3 C-MF, Dynafit Zzero4 C-MF, Garmont      G-Ride&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reviewer&amp;#39;s methodology&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I will provide impressions    of the boot&amp;#39;s skiing and touring ability by comparing this boot against other    alpine touring boots that I have recently used; the Garmont Mega-Ride, Garmont    G-Ride and the Scarpa Spirit 4. I will not review the technical features of    this boot, its construction method or boot-fitting in detail - that is not the    primary purpose of this review. I intend to concentrate more on the subjective    feel aspect of this boot as opposed to quantitative measures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;It is this reviewer&amp;#39;s    impression that the Dynafit Zzero 4 buckle boot in particular can be best compared    to other Dynafit - binding compatible 4 buckle touring boot offerings, such    as the Garmont Mega Ride and the Scarpa Spirit 4. The Mega Ride is a known quantity    familiar to many earn-your-turn enthusiasts in both its stock and modified form    and I will use it is a base-line when discussing the Zzero4. The Scarpa Spirit    4 is a new offering this year and my future review of the Scarpa boot will perhaps    provide further colour for screed on the Dynafit boots. When the Scarpa Spirit    4 review is complete and published it I will edit this review of the Dynafit    Zzero to link to the Scarpa Spirit 4 review.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Since both Dynafit Zzero    boots are &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; boots, I skied them with the following relatively    big skis:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Salomon Pocket Rockets 185cms      mounted with Dynafit Verticals&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kneissl Tankers 180cm mounted      with Fritschi Freerides.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I used these boots in    a variety of conditions over a period of three full days including groomers,    cut-up powder and slush on a ski-hill, white-out touring on a glacier in heavier    snow with assorted slide-debris and heavy snow on a hard underlying surface    on a ski-hill and backcountry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reviewer&amp;#39;s biases&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;You should know some    of this reviewer&amp;#39;s background for further context. I have ski-toured for about    12 years, starting out on leather telemark boots and three-pin bindings and    since migrating/evolving towards alpine touring setups consisting of Fritschi    Diarmir Freerides and Dynafits with a variety of skis. My touring time mostly    consists of day-trips with two or three multi-day short traverses during a season.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I weigh 160 lbs and    ski mainly in the Coast Mountains of British Columbia in the Vancouver/Whistler/Squamish    area. Local mid-winter snow is usually of the higher water - content variety    therefor necessitating bigger skis and bigger boots. Having said that [ Because    of this], for almost all the tours I do, I would trade downhill performance    for uphill performance.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Now that I have my biases    out of the way, on to the review.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/02IMG_0266boots.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Boots side profile&quot; width=&quot;488&quot; height=&quot;168&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Side profiles    of (from left to right): Garmont Mega Ride, Dynafit Zzero3 C - TF, Dynafit Zzero4    C -MF, Garmont G-Ride&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Construction    details&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Both Zzero models are    built like traditional alpine touring boots with overlapping cuffs, a tongue    and a vibram-covered rockered sole with an articulated walk mode in the heel.    To minimize weight both boots use Pebax plastic extensively in construction    and magnesium buckles. Carbon stringers on the bootshell and the tongue add    stiffness and look pimp. The manufacturer stated weight for the Zzero4 in my    size 27.5 with TF liners is 1585g per boot. The ZZero3 I tried weighed in at    1430g. This compares with my own boot, a 4 buckle Garmont MegaRide (modified    with Scarpa Tornado tongue) weighing in at 1650g per boot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;There are two different    liner choices available. The Multi-form liner is billed as a hybrid between    a conventional and thermo liner and has lacing. The Thermo Form liner is your    basic well-built thermo-formed liner with no lacing and is lighter (260g as    opposed to 360g for the MF liner - manufacturer stated weights). Neither liner    has ribbing or grips built onto the bottom as do newer Intuition liners; which    would have been a useful feature in case you want to use your liners in a hut.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;The boot has two lean    modes when switching to ski mode - 15 and 21 degrees. The walk mode switch is    small and may be difficult to operate with bulky gloves.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;As expected, construction    details appear top-notch. I did not have the boots for a sufficient length of    time to comment on durability.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/03IMG_0267boots.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Dynafits&quot; width=&quot;496&quot; height=&quot;587&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; From left    to right: Dynafit Zzero4 C - MF and Dynafit Zzero3 C - TF&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do they    ski?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dynafit Zzero 4 buckle &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The short answer - frighteningly    well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Longer answer: no disrespect to marketing    types but when someone tells me that they&amp;#39;ve made a boot that is both stiffer    &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; lighter then any other boot in the market, I roll    my eyes, mouth &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;yeah right&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot; and ask for more kool-aid. This    is one of the odd times when the marketing hype lives up to reality. The Dynafit    Zzero 4 buckle is alarmingly stiff and imparts tremendous control in downhill    situations albeith with some caveats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To give further colour to my comments,    I first tried these boots on with my stock Garmont liners that are packed out    to plastic-bag thinness. I literally could not get the buckles on the Zzero4    tight enough using this liner so had to stay centered and not pressure the boot-tongue    with forefoot pressure. I then proceeded to rip lines down Whistler Bowl then    the Saddle doubling up chopped up soft bums and railing carved turns at mach    - speed on the groomed trails. Simply put, the lateral rigidity of the boot    is comparable to my alpine boots. Obviously they are much stiffer then my Mega    Rides in this regard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought I should try the boots    with proper liners that fit so took them out in what can be best described as    elephant snot snow in lower elevations and chopped up powder up higher. The    boots were a revelation in these circumstances also, imparting tremendous control    to this skier. Descending through a white-out from backcountry towards the ski-hill    I had unbuckled the bottom two buckles on the boot for a bit of comfort and    inadvertently hit some wet-slide debris. No problem with control or bringing    the skis back under my body. Again, using my Mega Rides I would have been struggling    quite a bit more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This illustrates the caveat to which    I had alluded earlier. These boots are almost too stiff in the sense that there    are no compromises when skiing; they are powerful boots, for powerful, aggressive,    big skiers. The stiffness engages quickly and there is an absence of that intangibility    in progression when the boot engages its power. If this boot were a car, it    would be a constantly growling dragster. The power is either on or off. There    is no in-between. If this sounds at all intimidating, then so be it! This is    not a boot for timid or relaxed skiers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dynafit Zzero 3 buckle &lt;/em&gt;.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was prepared to be let down by    the 3 buckle Zzero after being overawed by its bigger 4 buckle brother. Instead    I found a more pleasant-natured boot but still with an aggressive hard edge.    This is a very capable boot and it handled the big skis well especially given    challenging conditions. It is subsceptible to being overpowered if one is to    back-seat ski fast down big slopes; in particular high-speed turns reveals its    limitations. At slower to medium speeds, it is a capable, predictable boot.    I will be honest and say that I did not have the same bug-eyed &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;oh    wow&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot; feeling after skiing this boot as I felt with its 4 buckle relative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will add that the 3 buckle Zzero    offering does not feel as balanced as the 4 buckle version. The 4 buckle boot    is stiff throughout while the 3 buckle boot has a relatively soft cuff but stiff    forefoot. One cannot resort to leaning forward and pressuring the cuff while    driving skis so an adjustment to skiing style is necessary.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/07IMG_0272internals.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Boot shells&quot; width=&quot;466&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;From left    to right: Garmont Mega Ride, Scarpa Spirit 4, Dynafit Zzero C - MF&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do they    tour?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dynafit Zzero 4    buckle &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;This remarkably stiff    boot does not tour badly at all. Of course, it&amp;#39;s hardly a tennis shoe but whatever    they put in the water of those crafty Dynafit engineers works. The carbon tongue    slides back and forth, imparting some give to the boot. I also found that I    had to slack off all the buckles and undo the powerstrap to get a full natural    stride as opposed to my usual method of merely undoing buckles from ski mode.    This adds some time to transistions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Hiking in this boot    is not a joy. The stiffness of the sole, tongue and bootshell militate against    comfort. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I did not have the opportunity    to scramble rock on these boots.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dynafit Zzero 3    buckle &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As per expectations, this boot tours    quite a bit better then the Zzero 4 buckle. Of course, the cuff is softer, lacking    the extra buckle and one&amp;#39;s stride feels more natural. However, hiking in this    boot is also no occasion for a party - recall that this 3 buckle boot is relatively    quite stiff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/05IMG_0270liners.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;boots &quot; width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;333&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;From L to    R: Dynafit TF (thermoflex) liner, Dynafit MF (Multiform) liner, and Scarpa Intuition    liner &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Summary&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are a big and/or aggressive    skier that drives big skis, get the Zzero4 carbon boot. If you are looking at    getting a &amp;quot;quiver&amp;quot; of boots and want a big boot for slackcountry or    yo-yo laps, get the Zzero4 carbon boot. If you are a light, finesse skier that    wants one boot to do it all then perhaps either look at getting the Zzero4 in    full Pebax and skip the carbon version (the Pebax version is supposed to be    less stiff then the Carbon version) or get the Zzero 3 buckle. I found the Zzero4    buckle carbon to be a considerable leap in stiffness over the baseline boot    - a Garmont Mega Ride. The Zzero3 buckle carbon is comparable in stiffness to    the Garmont Mega Ride.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you get these boots, be prepared    to concentrate on skiing well and be prepared to drive skis hard. Neither suit    lazy skiers or sloppy technique all that well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pros:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fantistically light and            stiff&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Decent tourability given            the stiffness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Striking colours; easily            spotted by friends and celebrity-seekers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Will comfortably drive even            big skis&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cons:          &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Will not be cheap&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Power comes on rapidly.            Full commitment required to ski these boots&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stiffness does not make            for fun hikes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Not everyone will like the            Euro-tastic bright green and bright yellow colours&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.leelau.net/2007/dynafitreviewmarch2007/06IMG_0732use.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Lee skiing&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; height=&quot;560&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;Dynafit    Zzero4 C-MF in use on the Blackcomb Glacier&lt;/p&gt;
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